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| Hi, We are playing a side in a few weeks that we need to beat to win hte minor premiership. The side has a great kicker and a wonderfully athletic Lineout jumper who makes it very difficult at lineout time. The team is not great in any other area but wins by kicking to corners winning the lineout and rolling the ball in to score. Our team has wonderful backs and a weaker lineout so as you can see we are suseptable to this sort of team due to often being starved of ball when we play them. Can you guys offer any tactical advice for beating a team like this?
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| I was faced with a similar situation this past season coaching U12 (ten a side). He is what I did- We learned six Lineout plays- We ran them in a pre determined order Each play contained a good bit of motion We focused on getting to the lineout quickly (before the defense is settled) We had our backs take quick lines when safe We practiced line outs alot We had our forwards run at their No. 10 (good kicker) as often as possible We won 21-17 Good luck..
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| Thanks Aztec. I do remember when they beat us last game we were sluggish to the lineout and when we were getting beaten we panicked and started throwing lineout balls to places we were not strong in. thanks again I will update on how we go...
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| I'd agree with the "Don't panic" bit entirely. You see sides do it all the time - l/out not functioning well so instead of concentrating on what they CAN do they start trying stuff they have NEVER tried/practised. Work on "banker" balls. L/outs that you will win 9 out of 10 times - could be flat and hard to the front, or tallest at the back lifted... whatever. Work on one or two (NO more) "trick" balls. L/out ploys that move away from lifting guys in the normal places - underarm pops to #1. Used ONLY when the ball HAS to won (l/out on own 5m line?) And all the other advice - get there early, throw when YOU are ready and don;t wait for them. Certainly work on unsettling their kicker(s), and getting some big runners at him/them early doors is a good start. didds
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Have you thought about your line-out defence and how you approach it. Basically what you need to do is get their maul to ground as quickly as possible, the quickest way is to use a sack i.e one player goes in and as soon as the line-out jumpers feet touch the ground you bring him down before the maul is formed.
Also if none of your players engage the maul it's quite legal for one player to go around and tackle the ball carrier.
Also if you know their main jumper, target him and put two pods on him, one in front and one behind, make him work hard.
Always talk to the referee before hand and outline to him how you defend line-outs, make him aware of exactly what you are going to do.
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| thanks guys for the advice...have taken it onboard and will update when we play again.. I especially like the idea of running traffic the way of their kickers to fatigue them. Great lineout tips.... thanks
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Owen, on the subjct of tactical advice I was wondering if I could pick your brains re break patterns from the scrum. The new 5m offside rule from the ELVs creates a potential problem hole behind the scrum. I notice that league teams like to get the back row to break quickly and spread slightly. What break patterns do you use with the league teams you are involved with and what do you think would be transferrable to union to deal with this issue.
Second man plays - how do you set up your runners if you are going to run a second man play or two in a move? This may be just a case of trying it and seeing with my union players but they are all pretty unfamiliar with the move so if you have any tips or hints...shoulders of giants and all that...
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| I suggest keeping the ball in hand and on the pitch. Work on contact skills to enable you to retain possession. Hard work for your guys, I know, but even harder for the defence. From their game plan as you describe it sounds like they may have a slow pack as well as a good kicker? If so, you want to keep moving them around the pitch. I agree with the reply which suggested running the ball at their 10 - yes, keep him tackling. But mix it up, attack out wide and up the blind side as well. Don't get predictable. Try to avoid giving away penalties - reduce his opportunities to kick. Work on quick lineouts with your back three. Also, on your own throw, try to get your forwards there first and take it quickly - like a "hurry-up offense" in American football. A small number of well-rehearsed moves, as suggested by other contributors, will help with this. Good luck!
Cheers
Doc
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