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| During my playing days I never heard the referee referred to as 'Sir.' Now based in the South-East the refs are commonly addressed in this manner. A Welsh friend of mine also never used this term. The substantive point is and relates to my point about the qualities of a good captain, does it make a difference? Playing the ref, rightly or wrongly can impact your side's game, how you speak to the ref can sometimes be a very important.
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| I'm from the Southwest and from the age of 12 (some 30 years ago) I have always addressed the ref as sir, I still do it as a coach regardless of the age of the ref (I'm lucky enough to have a very good 19yo who refs my home games, who I know from playing rugby with my nephew) and I expect my players to do the same. This of course doesn't extend to the bar afterwards.
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| Not a silly question by the way........
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| I have always known and referred to refs as 'Sir', at the business end. I think this may have come from my Da, who played during the '50s in South Wales... he always referred to refs [and umpires] as 'Sir'. Although, I am also less formal after the match and call them by their first name... in my younger days, it may have been Mr [so and son] if he was older. Back to the question... I don't think it should make a difference with respect to the team's chances. What it does do is instill a code; a bit like chivalry  . Seriously, have you heard what football refs are called? Certainly cannot repeat them and we have a totally different conduct on that pitch. If the coaches/managers call the refs 'Sir', so will the players and, psychologically, it brings with it a definite sense of respect. Refs and umpires have the last word on the pitch, whether we think they are right or wrong [and quite often I have wanted to send on a black labrador ]. However, I would have no problem with offering my prescription glasses in the bar where disputes are usually more listened to... refs usually respect the respect given.
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| It goes without saying that all players I coach know the score with regards respecting the referee, however respect does seem to be more negotiable as they get older. Our captain calls the ref 'Sir' but always seems to get under his/her skin like he does with his opponents, as a general rule in junior rugby I see little dialogue between team captains and referees and in some cases it is actively discouraged. I appreciate rugby experience is relevant. Any tips on how you address a 'ref' src="http://www.betterrugbycoaching.com/rugbyforum/Skins/BetterRugby/Images/EmotIcons/BigGrin.gif" width=20 height=20> would be welcome.
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| Always called them sir growing up playing in Oz and playing expat rugby all over the place, and my (US high school) boys now are required to do the same - unless it's ma'am of course! Doesn't hurt, sets the right tone. We can't play without them whether they're good or diabolical.
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in Holland when I played there it would be MENEER (dutch for my sir)... but coming from the US I would just say "sir" if it was in-game. I teach all my players to say "sir" (or "ma'am") but stress that only the captain should be talking to the ref.
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well, I've always called the ref "sir" as jkuch as through habit as anything. Otherwise "Ref".
At a pre-season briefing in NZ (Taranaki) 20 years ago now (!) the very senior ref handling the forum said that we shouldn't call him or other ref's "Sir"!!
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crookedfeed (26/08/2010)
Our captain calls the ref 'Sir' but always seems to get under his/her skin like he does with his opponents, We had a similar problem so we changed the captain........ we did this by speaking to him and and 3 other "senior" (seems an odd thing to say at U14's) but also good communicators. We explained our rational which he accepted but stressed that the 4 of them were part of the decision making processes on the pitch and all should be communicating with each other and the captain relaying to the ref.......
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