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Posted 14/07/2010 11:16:45
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Are pods useful at this age, or just an extra comlication thats more trouble than it's worth??

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Posted 14/07/2010 12:06:38
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I wrote about exactly this area in Rugby Coach Weekly issue 113, page 3.

In essence though pods will ONLY work if

●The players must all be fit enough to fulfil their pod duties.
Players who are unable to make the next breakdown
weaken their pod and impact on the other pod’s players.
● The players still need to be able to make good decisions,
like whether to join a breakdown or help out the other pod
in times of danger.
● Contact skills must be excellent. The reduced numbers in
each pod mean that each pod member must be able to
make a significant contribution to any breakdown.

If any of these areas breaks down or fails -or isn't in place initially - then the system WILL fail.

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Posted 31/07/2010 20:46:38


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Personally at this age, unless you are looking at represntative levels, I'd only look use formal pods off of certain set moves or plays (i.e. lineouts, scrums etc).

Generally players struggle to make the correct decisions or have the capacity to execute every skill needed, so after a certain period of time/phases they breakdown. The it has been known that a higher level of blame is laid at players if complicated systems fail - where actually it may well be the coaches fault due to making elaborate systems, and not understanding players/teams strengths and weaknesses.

If the players are good enough expirement, but allow them also to play what they see... all too often seen teams use pods and set the phases/stages for the next play when if they took half a chance they would have got in behind the opposition and who know what may have happened then....?

Just my view....

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Posted 01/08/2010 13:54:12
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d4zzler (31/07/2010)

Just my view....


And an exceptionally good one I may add.

You must have read my article Dazzler ;-)

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Posted 01/08/2010 19:55:23
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My idea was to give the boys (who are pretty inexperienced) some sort of structure.For example, by telling front row payers not to rush to the first breakdown after a scrum, but get ready to support the second.

I wanted to take some of the decision making away from them to make things a bit easier for them to know where they should be after set pieces...

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Posted 02/08/2010 07:24:17


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Didds - unfortunatly no... sorry

Have you a copy?

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Posted 02/08/2010 07:54:19


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Oh ok so you are looking at simple structures:

  • off scrum
    • Pod 1) Back row and Lock nearest the side to the direction of play compete at 1st breakdown
    • Pod 2) Lock and front row provide support/runners at depth for the next play/phase
  • Full Lineout (assuming that you have movement in the lineout you won't be able to define exactly who is in each pod)
    • Pod 1) Non-lifting/jumping pod, plus 7or2 to add support depending where you have thrown to - support/hit 1st phase
    • Pod 2) Lifting Pod, plus 2or7 - to support 2nd phase

I have some more structures if needed....

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Posted 02/08/2010 09:58:08


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I think for inexperienced players, the idea of where to run from the first phase is excellent. Gives them the idea that the job is not done - "keep in the game", "get two touches on the ball"...
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Posted 02/09/2010 19:55:14
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The pod system is a different name for the old sprinters and strollers of the expert Danie Craven of SA. I find it very effective as players get to know their job and get to read the situation in front of them., eg join ruck or not.At U-16 stick to 2 pods as 3 pods is not so easy to introduce.
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Posted 03/09/2010 08:32:18
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Biggest point is how you coach the "pods". If we spend time coaching younger (and let's face it older!) players how to go into contact and then deliver a quick ruck there's always the danger that they'll become pre-conditioned to go and find a defender to run into.

Obviously contact occurs but let's not forget that the game, in its purest form, is about contact avoidance. Support (pods or otherwise) for continuity in the first instance, securing the ball in contact in the second.
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