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| A visiting PE teacher (from SA) suggested we change the way we form a maul from a line out-but I'm not sure of it's legallity Currently, the first suppoting player rips away the ball. The rest of the support bind on to the ripper and drive. The ball is transfered to the back of the maul "manually". We try to emphasise a "thinner is better" approach the the maul. Our visitor suggested that the ripper actually stands still, and the rest of the maul drive on (he described it as "sliding" over him). The ripper then joins the back of the maul, ball in hand. Is this obstruction???
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I believe this is legal, as long as the ripper remains 'bound' while the maul moves ahead of him, otherwise a pen for truck and trailer is likely. The jumper/supported players fully binding on the ripper allows the ripper to focus on the ball, rather than binding
We have had this method suggested to us a few times, the idea being that the ball is more secure as it is travelling through fewer pairs of hands, and all players remain in a forward facing driving position. We have never adopted it though - it requires practice to get right, and can lead to issues if the jumper is quickly sacked, the ripper can be exposed and unbound
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But how can the ripper be bound if the maul is moving around him?...Thats what I don't get..
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| My experience with this, was when I had a top grade player come to help train our U11s. He taught this technique. The problem had nothing to do with legality, the boys just plain didn't get it. It just didn't make sense to them. We have since been working the old-fashioned manual transfer method, and it works fine. KISS.
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Regarding the binding, refs are usually happy that the ripper is bound if at least one of the supporting players has a full arm bind on the ripper at all times, and he has at least a finger tip bind on a team mate, so a rear player binds onto the ripper before the front player lets go. I know the ripper is not strictly 'bound'...
regardless of the legality, I agree with GE, just do it the old fashioned way, it works
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Regarding the binding, refs are usually happy that the ripper is bound if at least one of the supporting players has a full arm bind on the ripper at all times, and he has at least a finger tip bind on a team mate, so a rear player binds onto the ripper before the front player lets go. I know the ripper is not strictly 'bound'...
I'd be more interested in how the sliding player is legally bound in the maul !
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So, the ripper(who has ripped the ball) is stationary, and the rest of the maul is moving forward aroud him. Surely he can't be bound to players that are moving while remaining stationary?? Even if he has a full-arm bind at the back of the maul, the rest of it has caused obstruction hasn't it?
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| The ripper takes the ball off the catcher (obviously from a lineout). Other players join the maul (through the gate) go over the top on either side of the ripper then bind on each other, as the ripper fights his way to the back of the maul, he is bound by one hand/arm. These players will squeeze/close the space in front of the ripper. Once he is at the back of the maul he reinforces his one handed/armed bind and he will have 2 or 4 players in front of him. After practice, the transition to the back of the maul is improved. It is an extremely effective way of getting the ball to the back of the maul without the risk of handling/communication errors that can occur with manual transfer. The ripper remains a part of the maul at all times, if he fails to reinforce his bind or attempts to regain a lost bind - he then becomes guilty!
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| But how can the ripper move towards the back of the maul AND remain bound as he does so??? I just don't get it. It's a moot point though, we.ve decided to KISS and do it the old fasioned way...
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| Watch, the Southern hemisphere teams do the maul at line outs, that is the way the top team including the boks do the maul. It is simple if your player bend over to rip the support players put there arm over the ripper, but don't grab his shirt, they then slide there arms along the players back from the behind to his shoulder, one support player then holds onto the ripper (who is now at least one row back) and he holds the row in front thus keeping the ripper bound, as new players join or recyle in the maul they join by reaching as far forward as they can and grabbing the rippers jersey high on his back (while being almost behind him) and then pushing forwards changing their relative position with out releasing the bind and pushing the previous guys forward and binding on to him thus keeping the ripper bound. The ripper does not have to hold on to any one to be bound, others must hold on to him, it is like a relay and does require good communication. The support players can also help pull their man backwards away from the defence.
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