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Posted 27/10/2009 09:21:05


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Hi, have any of you came across a situation where a player (mini's level - aged 9) - I have a child in my p5 group that fails to use his voice ... he is strong in attack but doesn't receive the ball due to not shouting for it or if he's in support the other players in his team have no clue he's there.  After the break down and before the restart even his own players are telling him to shout for the ball so they know where he is.

Any help would be great, games that we can play, drills we can run ...

peter.

 

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Posted 27/10/2009 10:47:10
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Hi Peter,

I'm a great believer in using and enhancing varieties of sensual input to improve communication. Getting players to enhance one sensual input by switching off the other is a good doorway into this area. Whilst this will help your silent player to understand the need for auditory communication, it will also raise the awareness of the group.

Whilst its a bit left field, you might consider this as something they could work at and you could develop for them.

Start working with pairs with sets of cones spaced in a straight line between 3-5m apart. Player A stands with a ball on a cone 5m in front of player B, facing away from A (ie downfield) so he can't see him approaching from behind. Player B starts his run and at a point of his choice calls "left" or "right". On that call, Player A - without looking left or right - has to give a pop pass for B to run on to. B then runs to the next cone and stops and repeats the process for A to perform. A must not start running until B has stopped at the next cone. The process can continue A-B-A-B for as far down the field as you wish

The key point is the passer must not look to see where runner is but rely only on his auditory cue.

There's a variety of learnings here - the timing of the call, the timing of the pop pass, giving a decent pop pass, giving loud and clear instructions, plus some more not yet considered.

You could develop this into going with more than just working pairs, perhaps into a relay race once the process starts to function. Another development is to add a tackler, who stands facing the passer and then has to react once the runner has made his call. This would sharpen up the process as well for both the runner and the passer. These are just some of a whole variety of ways you can develop and enhance this as a basic process.

Hope this helps.

PW

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Posted 27/10/2009 11:17:27
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Good luck. We have an entire squad of silent U15s. Watching them play is like watching TV with the sound off. There has been some improvement but they have to be continually reminded.

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Posted 27/10/2009 11:54:37


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Hi GourouxPete. That sound's a good drill to have a go with.  I'll set it up for Sunday coming. Thanks.

Ferret - I feel your pain, at least I only have one to contend with.

Please keep the ideas / hints / tips coming.

peter.

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Posted 27/10/2009 12:22:31


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Try blindfolded tasks where one player has to tell another player where to go.

Or "not looking" passing, where the ball carrier relies on the call to know where to pass the ball.

Or "no ball" touch, where the imaginary ball can only be passed by calling the name of the intended passer. Normal rugby touch rules but there are no dropped balls (!).

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Posted 29/10/2009 16:10:42
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I have just started to work on communication with my group of U14's. When playin touch if the ball is not called for then it shouldn't be passed and if, as referee, it is passed I blow up and turn the ball over to the other team. Only started last week and its better already, of course it has to follow them to the game but fingers crossed.

Liked the other drill tough and will give that a try

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Posted 29/10/2009 21:08:07
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My U14's are loud and communicate well...... when they've got the ball, lots of calling and where they're going....... my challenge is to get them to do it when they haven't and they're defending....... any ideas????
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When my players (U15) were too quiet / didn't communicate, I told them that they were not allowed to say anything, to be completely silent, and play for 5-10 minutes. If they breached the rule, the opposing team got a free kick.
After just a minute or two they started calling for the ball by clapping their hands and when I asked them why, they said that they needed to do that since it was impossible to play without talking. Point made!
The difference was significant when we resumed play and they were allowed to talk again.
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Posted 23/11/2009 04:44:05
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With every drill you do have them shout 'go' or something similar. For example, split your squad into 2-6 teams (based on numbers at training), put a tackle bag for each team 15-40 metres away next to it and make every player tackle it. When they've got back to their feet have them shout their next team members name, signalling the next player to go.

Also try to make all your drills fun and/or competitive (including hill runs, pressups etc).

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Posted 28/12/2009 15:03:10
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Isn't it astonishing that when you want the players to talk they won't, yet I bet that when you want them to button it (when you are explaining something) you can't keep them quiet! Blame mouth guards! As soon as they take them out, nothing hinders the noise levels!

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