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Posted 25/08/2009 16:13:13
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We have a prop swapping to tighthead this season. He's struggling to engage square-he always borrows in towards the hooker. He says the loose head is right in front of him and he either goes across or clashes heads.

Any suggestions??

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Posted 25/08/2009 19:02:38
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Strikes me that if your lucy and hooker are in the right place, either he's not bound properly or he's being awkward - have you run them on a scrum machine - that's where I'd start.

If you can't suss it out, PM me and I'll ask a Premiership forwards coach

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Posted 25/08/2009 19:26:22
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Everything seems fine on a machine. His hips are square, spine in line..everything. Binding seems tight, foot position good. When scrummaging live feet are ok, he sems to be be twisting in at the hips. My feeling is he is right side dominant and hitting with his right shoulder first. I want to encourage him to conciously hit with his left shoulder instead. He's a big lad, and he makes the front row quite wide so he really is standing drectly in front of the oppo loose head.  Appart from getting the other two to take half a step to the left, I'm thinking of suggesting moving him to lock

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Posted 25/08/2009 20:38:40
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*ensure his left shoulder is proud of the hooker's, and not tucked in behind the hookers right shoulder
*ensure he is scrummaging off his left (inside) foot ie his major weight/drive/push/effort is on his left foot. coming from LH he may be pushing on is right foot which will push him inwards.
*is the 2nd row binding on his left pocket? If so this will keep his left hip pulled forward and help him stay square.

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Posted 08/09/2009 08:22:13
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didds (25/08/2009)
*ensure his left shoulder is proud of the hooker's, and not tucked in behind the hookers right shoulder
didds

No 1 in my book ... but ... if he is lining up in front of the other sides' loose (and your hooker is in the right place) make him stand his ground pushing their loose wide and weakening their bind. Might happen if your guys are very wide shouldered.

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Posted 08/09/2009 17:24:41
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I have found a few things that help the THP engage squarely.

1. Remind him to keep his left hip tight to hooker and work 'inside to out'. Make sure his right foot is behind his left foot prior to engagement and the short, right foot power step at engagement doesn't go past being even with his left foot.

2. Have the lock bind through and around the THP's left leg, and grasp the THP waste band on the inside of the left hip. This may require some adjusting to by the lock, but keeping the THP left hip tight to the #2's right hip will help the THP from 'widening out' which facilitates boring in on the opposition's #2.

3. Have the THP turn his head just slightly after engagement so his chin is pointing into the oppositions's LHP's cheek. This tends to push the THP's left shoulder up a bit and helps keep him square after engagement.

I used this technique extensively myself and coach my U19/HS props this and locks this binding and engagement method.

Bart Nielsen

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Posted 08/09/2009 17:52:42
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excellent stuff by Bart... to which i would now add...

*when engaging, tuck his chin into the cleft between his neck and his shoulder 9its the "dip" by the collar bone - this will keep the LH's head wide and may even stop the LH from burrowing under and into the TH's chest.

* tell him if he has to clash heads, then clash heads - it won;t be full on IF bart's advice is taken. (caveat - which age are we talking here?). Its a tough position, he'll have to be tough.

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Posted 09/09/2009 09:18:58
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"He who cheats best - wins!"

Jonsey

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