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Posted 11/08/2009 09:13:17


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It is interesting to know how many coaches have to go out to referee as well.

I do it for my own team sometimes (Mumbles U10) and other local teams. I am a Level 1 referee so don't have the pleasure of the senior game or matches above a certain age, though I have refereed both in the distant past .

Does this experience change your view of referees?

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Posted 13/08/2009 20:07:19
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I've not refereed, except for scrimmages at practice. The ref has an unenviable job.

If you ref here and there, as a coach I think it could only broaden your understanding of the game and its ever-changing interpretation of laws.

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Posted 18/08/2009 17:47:33
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I referee often - avoiding my own team as far as possible - and it definitely changed my views of referees. Sometimes we are too harsh on referees and not harsh enough on the causes of the problems - the iRB and the fact that too many laws are open to "interpretations".

I now try very hard not to blame the referee and instead concentrate on "playing the referee". I have learned that yes there are Laws to abide by, but it is more important to "play the ref" than "play the Laws". This is not ideal but necessary until (if ever!) we get more help from the Law makers for refs.

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Posted 18/08/2009 20:57:50
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My problem is ref's not showing up, I suffered through as U-14 coach for a season with missing refs before I decided to get my level 1.  As a U-16 coach I am lucky enough that one of the boy's father is a level 2 ref and he is always at his son's games.  We had to use him twice this year for no shows.  The local ref's society has gotten much better this year at posting who the official is and their contact number but on occasion stuff happens.
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Posted 19/08/2009 09:12:09
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Yes, I coach and referee. Took my Level 1 refereeing a few years ago simply to have some background of competence/confidence/whatever, particularly as I would be the home ref for our team (who will be U-14s).

Interesting seeing the mentions of ref society refs - we only get those for county cup matches, hence the need to have a 'home' referee (i.e. one from the home team, not one favouring the home team!!) the rest of the season. At a home game I leave the coaching largely to the rest of the coaching team and focus on reffing the game.
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Posted 24/08/2009 09:38:40
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Hi - new to the forum and my first post!

4 years ago, my lad got me volunteered to coach. I became concerned that there was never a willing volunteer to ref his games, so I took the course, and became a society ref.

I've reffed ever since, Adults on Saturdays, and juniors on Sundays. I'm now also a 4th Official in the Guinness Premiership. So I can go from opposite ends of the Rugby Spectrum in 1 weekend!

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Posted 24/08/2009 23:23:27


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I think the key thing with reffing (yip, this ref basher's blown the odd whistle in my time! ) is to communicate & be consistent... if the players kow whats going on & your decisions are consistent for both sides, you'll get grudging acknowledgement from the peanut gallery regardless of the outcome... while I prefer to coach as i believe that is more my calling/ gifting than reffing (& I highly appreciate & value a good ref when i see/ get him or her!) I do think all coaches should do a basic referee's course because sometimes what we coach & what referees are blowing can be WORLDS apart...  

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Posted 25/08/2009 07:49:40
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I think the key thing with reffing (yip, this ref basher's blown the odd whistle in my time! ) is to communicate & be consistent... if the players kow whats going on & your decisions are consistent for both sides, you'll get grudging acknowledgement from the peanut gallery regardless of the outcome... while I prefer to coach as i believe that is more my calling/ gifting than reffing (& I highly appreciate& value a good ref when i see/ get him or her!) I do think all coaches should do a basic referee's course because sometimes what we coach& what referees are blowing can be WORLDS apart...
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Posted 27/08/2009 09:42:44
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stuart3826 (24/08/2009)
Hi - new to the forum and my first post!

4 years ago, my lad got me volunteered to coach. I became concerned that there was never a willing volunteer to ref his games, so I took the course, and became a society ref.

I've reffed ever since, Adults on Saturdays, and juniors on Sundays. I'm now also a 4th Official in the Guinness Premiership. So I can go from opposite ends of the Rugby Spectrum in 1 weekend!

Funny how things move on rapidly isn't it? This week, I've been appointed as Laws Coach at my club! Idea is the players won't get caught cheating although I won't be showing them how to bleed without first being cut

Stu


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