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| Can anyone help here. Uncontested scrum, when I did my ELRA I was told no No.8 pickup at Junior Level. Yesterday I witnessed pickups by an U13 No 8 from an uncontested scrum. As I thought I knew what I was talking about ( MY ELRA course finished a few weeks ago) I reminded the referee after the game about no picking up from an uncontested scrum at junior level. I was told I was speaking rubbish, so what I have now is one Society ref saying 'NO' and a ref from a different society saying 'YES'. I cannot find anything printed in any of the supplementary law variation print outs. Can anyone enlighten me, please. Engelsman
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Making the usual assumption that we are RFU-controlled here......
I too coach and referee U13. In the continuum, number 8 pick-up is specifically not allowed at U12 and below, but there is nothing restricting it above that. I wonder if the interpretation of 'Junior' may be the problem here as I believe it is not a defined term. As far as I am aware, the official designations are Mini Tag (U7-U8), Mini (U9-U10), Midi (U11-U12) and Youth/School (U13-U19).
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| Certainly under the RFU laws number 8 pick up is allowed at U13 because we scored several tries that way last year (including one in a cup game with a very senior ref!!) From memory, before that we only had a 7 man scrum anyway and there was no number 8, although that may have been U11. As far as the 'uncontested scrum' part is concerned, I don't have the laws in front of me but from memory it just says no shoving and the side putting in must win it. You can win a scrum from a no 8 pick up just as well as with no 9 so I don't see that pick up is prohibited simply because the scrum is uncontested. But as always I am happy to be contradicted! Cheers Ferret
U14s Backs Coach "There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is England" (Sir Winston Churchill)
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