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Posted 27/06/2007 12:12:30
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Go on then didds what is the inside shoulder????

touche!  :-)

The term "gain line" is not jargon, it is a clearly defined term in many text books and described by many commentators on the game. If I said to almost any seasoned forward "stick it up yer jumper and have a trundle" very few would have an understanding of what I had said but I would know and so would my players. So when you as a Coach "expect them to create a tackle line" I haven't got a clue what you mean I can only hope you would be explaining it.

Out with jargon in with plain simple instruction

Totally agree.  But that isn't to say that I haven't seen sessions where the coach - with players (s)he doesn't normally coach - uses allegedly universal terms such as gain line, tackle line etc without actually checking that the players do know what those terms mean.  They may not be "jargon" - but if people don't know what they mean they may as well be "jargon" - that as you quite correctly say needs to be explained if having first ascertained that the term wasn't understood.   One of course hopes that the coach undewrstands what they are of course :-)

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Posted 27/06/2007 13:42:53
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Jargon is not, in and of itself, a bad thing provided those using it take the time to explain. Jargon is just a shorthand and can be found everywhere in many many aspects of life. One uses terms with established meanings to avoid overly long descriptions. "Gain line" is easier than "an imaginary line that can be drawn across the field of play at 90 degrees to the touch lines separating the territories notionally belonging to either team etc..." once everyone in the conversation knows what it means.

Roll on publication of the "jargon buster"!
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Posted 28/06/2007 09:24:44
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How about "BISH" "BASH" and "BOSH"?
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Posted 28/06/2007 15:14:55


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I have done a quick sweep (not jargon) of the terms so far and it seems there are in excess of 150 to write about.

Thanks to everyone so far who has contributed. Some will be easy to define, others I am going to have to venture off into the minds of wizened coaches and players to work out what is going on!

I am working on a cross referencing scheme at the moment.

Others that have sprung to mind are more general, but often used in rugby: aerobic, anaerobic, latic acid, dynamic etc. stretching, Olympic weights, interval training, cross training, carbs, hydration, proteins.

Should I include "slang" like: wheels, gas, boiler room, "the tackle"? 

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Posted 28/06/2007 16:11:17
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Can I add "clothes line" and the equivalent "coat hanger"? Or are they technically different "crafts"?

If you haven't seen it, here's Johansson clothes line tackle on Mortlock in the Reds v Brumbies game in this year's Super 14.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zSop6FWsEE&mode=related&search=

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Posted 29/06/2007 09:55:03
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OUCH!

Reminds me of Adrian Morley on Robbie Kearns in 2003 - sent off after 12 secs of a test. A record!
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Posted 20/07/2007 10:39:56
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Here's an example of a "wrap" switch that Dan published on You Tube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFsD3rvXV9w

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Posted 22/07/2007 20:01:23
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Here are some terms for positions played:

15. Full back
14 / 11. Right / left wing, winger or wing three-quarter
13. Outside centre, centre three-quarter in New Zealand
12. Inside centre, second five-eighths in New Zealand
10. Fly half in England and South Africa, first five-eighths in New Zealand, outside-half or out-half and occasionally in stand-off
9. Scrum half, half back in New Zealand
8. Number 8, sometimes lock in Australia and eighthman in South Africa
7 / 6 . Openside / blidside flanker, right / left flanker, wing forward (an old term), breakaway in Australia
5 / 4. Lock, sometimes known as second row
3 / 1. Tight head / loose head prop
2. Hooker
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