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| I am just compiling a list with explanations of the jargon that is used in rugby. Part of the problem with understanding is that different countries use different expressions for the same thing. Here are a couple of examples (some very simple I know!) that I am going to explain but I would appreciate any others that people have come across: Jackle, screen pass, loosies, Garryowen, grubber, wiper, block pass, winder, pancake, 1st 5/8, up on 1, slice, unders and overs, cut, route one Plus I am going to pick up on common words and expressions that are used so much that some players don't know what it really means: Communication, footwork, fast hands, soft hands, concentrate, grid
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| Good one Dan! How about "piss off", "circle ball" "sack" and an old one "Rany"? Jonesy
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| Luckily know those! Hedgehogging, farside offload, red zone, gate, four hands
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Great idea Dan!
Have a look at http://www.scrum.com/954_983.php .
A few others that spring to mind and might not be known to those new to the game - overlap, cornerflagging, scissors, switch, loop, miss, turning in (as in front rows), boring in, truck and trailor, ball and all, box kick, out on the full (as in kicking), held up, clearing out, fetcher, clearance, handoff/fend, up-the-jumper, shepherding, blocking, crossing, dominant tackle, rucking (now how many meanings does that have!?) raking (not picking up leaves in autumn!), pop, pod. I am sure there are many more - when you think about it rugy almost have a language all its own!
Interesting also how some go out of fashion - few bar Bill McClaren talk of Garryowens any more.
I have a good explanation of unders and overs as well as some diagrams showing them if needed.
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| Great list Chris. The scrum.com only covers a couple. I have the pictures from previous Rugby Coach newsletters on unders and overs. Will start work on it next week. I will compile a list first and see if anyone else has others to contribute.
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| A few more spring to mind - clean ball, quick ball, slow ball, off the top (of the lineout), "numbers", blind side, weak side, short side, open side, strong side, drift, set play, phase play, loose play, open play, drawing the man, draw and give, inside shoulder, outside shoulder, shading. Also, gap naming, not something that is really developed in the game (unlike gridiron) but you do hear "No.10 channel", "No. 12 channel" etc. In and out (as in what wingers do), drop out, gain line, advantage line. In league some call the area behind the ruck the "tight spot" - an important defensive area as if the A defenders head off too soon they can leave a hole - not sure if it has a name in RU. Dummy half, fringes - this could be a big glossary.
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| Hi Dan, This is a really good idea. The names change but not the purpose. How about ball watching, Minder, Enforcer, Sweep! Can you guys confirm for me that circle ball is just a good old double round. Cheers Terry
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| a freaky coincidence dan... our colts coach and I were having a similar discussion only last week! We were saying about how we need to share a common vocabulary throughout our club's squads so that players can undwrtand what we mean when coaches blithely use various descriptions. Its all very wekk us telling an U15 player to attack the inside shoulder - but what IS the inside shoulder? When we say "cross the gain line" do our players actually understand where a gain line is? It is clear that players I speak to do not actually understand what a tackle line is... (or rather where it REALLY is)... so how can we as coaches expect them to ensure that they create a tackle line as far forward as they can if they don;t understand what it is? A top topic! didds
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This is a huge topic, but a great one, and can be split down into different groups (Which might make it easier to handle).- Position Names
- Coaching terms
- Basic Moves
- Refereeing terms
- Commentators phrases / terms
So using that, I have the following off the top of my head: 1. Position Names - Lock / Second Row
- Flankers / Wing Forwards / Loosies / Openside & Blindside
- N°8 / Eighth man / Loosie
- Scrumhalf / Halfback
- Fly Half / Stand Off / Out Half / 1st 5/8 / Ten
- Inside Centre / 2nd 5/8 / Left Centre
- Outside Centre/ Centre / Right Centre / Centre 3/4
- Wing / Wing 3/4
2. Coaching Terms - Spine in line
- Leg Drive
- D
- Fast Feet
- Hang time
- Support
- Slide
- Overload
- Running Lines
- Punt
- Dummy
- Decoy
- Running Ruck
- Pop
- Bump; & Burl; & Slip; & Pop
- Visualise
3. Basic Moves - Rangy
- M1
- M2
- Loop
- Cut
- Miss
- Fold
- S1
- S2
- Switch
- Cut & Fold
4. Refereeing Terms - Truck & Trailor
- Through the Gate
- Accidental Offside
- Blocking
- Shepherding
- Boring in
- Turning in
5. Commentators phrases / Terms
If you always do what you've always done You'll always have what you've always had.
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didds (25/06/2007)
a freaky coincidence dan... our colts coach and I were having a similar discussion only last week! We were saying about how we need to share a common vocabulary throughout our club's squads so that players can undwrtand what we mean when coaches blithely use various descriptions.
Its all very wekk us telling an U15 player to attack the inside shoulder - but what IS the inside shoulder? When we say "cross the gain line" do our players actually understand where a gain line is? It is clear that players I speak to do not actually understand what a tackle line is... (or rather where it REALLY is)... so how can we as coaches expect them to ensure that they create a tackle line asfar forwardas they can if they don;t understand what it is?
A top topic!
didds
Go on then didds what is the inside shoulder????
I agree with you a common vocabulary is a must
Oh yes I hate jargon which tends to be used by those in the know to keep those who arn't out. The term "gain line" is not jargon, it is a clearly defined term in many text books and described by many commentators on the game. If I said to almost any seasoned forward "stick it up yer jumper and have a trundle" very few would have an understanding of what I had said but I would know and so would my players. So when you as a Coach "expect them to create a tackle line" I haven't got a clue what you mean I can only hope you would be explaining it.
Out with jargon in with plain simple instruction
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