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My team has a terrific backline, with 4 of the backline players in the top 10 try scorers in our Under 13 competition.
I'd say it's a problem lots of teams would like to have, but our two centres are absolutely fantastic players - but a bit "greedy". Give them the ball with a bit of room and a try is always in the offing. My problem is that we also have fantastic wingers, but they don't get a lot of ball.
Is there a way to get the centres to get rid of their "sticky" hands and give the wingers a run before they get completely bored and disenchanted with the game?
I've tried the old "scoring tries is not the only thing, setting up tries and giving a great pass is very important", but it doesn't seem to work.
And naturally you don't want to stifle the talents of the two centres - bit of a problem really.
Dobbie
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| Let your centers try to play wingers and tell your new centers to be just as "greedy" to make them see how it feels not getting any balls to run. Or maybe you can ask your wingers to be more active and sometimes cut in between the centers with a switch?
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Tobbe beat me to it.
Play a game with positions reversed. Development is all, results are transitory at these youth age levels especially.
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| I agree with the previous posts. We too have strong wingers and they relish the occasional game in the centres. Also, if that works, in some games you could encourage the centres and wingers to swop around in the line for different plays, this confuses the opposition but of course they all have to know their different roles whatever the call. They are old enough now to do this intelligently. I find giving them this sort of responsiblity (in controlled circumstances) helps them to develop their knowledge of the game. At U14 they are still growing and may still yet change their favoured position. ATB Ferret
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Great centres and wings - you lucky thing! The next step is to create more simple but unusual plays that bring the wings in from the blind side, have them cut inside the outside centre (the two players cross over/scissors) and take short ball, look at the Western Force, and see the angles they play to bring their two (fantastic) wings into play.
Another thing is to involve all six outside backs in all your team variations. 1) is the passer, 2) is the receiver, 3) is the decoy runner, 4) is the secondary receiver (after the 1st receiver breaks the line), 5) and 6) are the support runners who are in a position to continue the attack, or ruck over if there is a tackle.
Send the players away with the following instruction: "Come back in 30 minutes with a new (viable) move that will blow my breath away, because I have never thought of it." My team (in Japan) came back with a move from a centre scrum that involved the 2 centres running decoy courses, the two wings came inside, one received the ball from the full back(!), and they sped downfield. Ridiculous! But the deal was they could give it a go, and at a training camp, they scored 6 tries in one week playing it! (Of course, once the oppo defence had seen it once, they could defend it easily.)
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I'd say it's a problem lots of teams would like to have, but our two centres are absolutely fantastic players - but a bit "greedy". Give them the ball with a bit of room and a try is always in the offing. My problem is that we also have fantastic wingers, but they don't get a lot of ball.
nintendo
i echo the thoughts of the other posters.
it is difficult when boys are much better than their opponents, it raises their confidence and makes it more likely that they will be greedy.
we have lads like that, they win the game with runs from our 22. although we cheer, it does not make for a 'good team'. our team relies on them to do it every game but they are stumped when they meet a super organised opposition.
it becomes hard to say to a boy that a half a pitch run' will not help our team and that building a position is just as important, more so, because you dont lose the ball because the boy is isolated.
(although our winger gets plenty of ball, this still applies)
we have a free scoring winger who is a good defender too. we have tried him all across the backs, except full back. whatever position he has played, he still ends up by the left corner flag, short and robbed, or, scoring an impossible try.
he is almost un-coach'able because he cannot/will not see, that he costs us almost as much as he gains us. (i know it is up to the forwards support him but his actions drag the team out of any shape)
when we trained, i had one player almost man mark' him like they do in football. he did not get close to scoring because he is predictable.
he is a nice lad and will listen to every bit of advice given...... and then completely ignore it
hes county level player, so all the local coaches know him and how he will play, and their lads are catching up physically.
boys dont like blackboards but i think it helps when explaining how to build a scoring position and it might help a little.
i feel its easier to boost a lesser player than to temper/curb a young lad that knows all the answers, without blowing all that fantastic confidence.
( i do know that no one is un-coach'able and it depends on the voice advising him but im sure you understand )
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