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| To bring this back to technical coaching, I've started to include some technique development for five mins at the end of our warm-up. These are little things we don't spend a lot of time doing at training, but are relevant to player needs in a game. Fast feet/footwork is one example, and another we do might be of use to you with regards to this topic. Have players 'square off' one on one in a little 'knee slap' game. One player acts as a Fender, and the other as a DE-fender. The Fender must look to keep his/her opponent at arms length, literally, by fending off. You can talk about what ways of fending can achieve a certain effect. For example, if somone's shoulders are too low, or they're unstable, a fend to the shoulder can throw them off balance. The DE-fender is aiming to parry the fend and get in close to tag his/her opponent's knee(s). We focus on keeping arms in close and in front of the body so as to push the fend away quickly and get in close for a 'tackle.' Arms in close, to me, means they're not wasting time by 'winding up' for a tackle and are thus less likely to make an arms tackle; they're also to focus on a target and keep their core strong in moving forward. All the while, both players are bounding around on the balls of their feet, in a crouched dynamic position. Have them go for 30 sec. to see how many tags they can make/fend. Aside from working on the tackle approach, they're also working on their core/balance and agility. Then switch roles. I'm a Canadian coaching in Australia, who played gridiron at school. As that sport has a lot of one-on-one battles, I felt this 'lineman's drill' was appropriate to rugby as we've probably all blown a tackle because of a fend off. It wouldn't hurt anyone to spend a few minutes now and then practicing how to parry away the fend to get in close and/or to appropriately and adequately use the fend without going for the face!
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| The answer gents is to teach players to parry the fend/hand off as they go in for the tackle. Keep eyes open, for left shoulder tackle, right hand knocks the fend downwards, and vice verca for right shoulder tackle. Should be part of all basic tackling technique.
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| "nothing teaches a youngman quicker than pain." Dan, can I have my money back please - all those issues of RCJ seem to have been a complete waste of time?
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winstanley (27/10/2008) "nothing teaches a youngman quicker than pain."
Dan, can I have my money back please - all those issues of RCJ seem to have been a complete waste of time?
am i wrong?
i dont think so!
if you get a hand off in the face then it simply shows you have poor technique.
i also think giving one to the face is a poor show.
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if you get a hand off in the face then it simply shows you have poor technique.
depends though what the purpose is of the tackler who is getting handed off... if he is the "upstairs" ball attacker whilst someone else is the "downstairs" knees tackler there's more chance of receiving the handoff. But the point otherwise is well made.
i also think giving one to the face is a poor show.
but if its the only target available...
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| Relating to this thread and the one about only allowing tackles below the waist: there have been a lot of people saying that tackles above the waist show poor technique. Now, for a 1-on-1 sideways cover tackle where that player has no support then a tackle below the waist would be my favoured tackle. But there are plenty of situations where other tackles are vaild, and in my opinion preferable if the player can perform them: a smother tackle when there is a 2-on-1 (or simply to prevent an offload, slow down the release) a front-on impact tackle (to drive the player backwards) - here the shoulder would probably contact with the stomach the second tackler IMHO as soon as you try to impose that players only defend in one way then attackers will get into bad habits - running too upright, not worrying about the ball, etc..
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| With regard to a hand off to the face at youth level, I referee regularly at youth level and as far as I am concerned anything above the line of the shoulders is taboo. This isn't senior rugby we are talking about, it is youth!!..it is nothing to do with wrapping the players in cotton wool or protecting them from all ill's, the object is to encourage players to play rugby and to develop them in the game not to break their noses and having to explain to irate parents about how little Johnny is in hospital with his nose all over his face. The problem is too many people, and this includes both parents and coaches who have played or are still playing the game think of it as a smaller version of senior rugby. We need the youth of today still to be playing in 10, 15 and 20 years time that way they can pass on their enthusiasm and experiences of the game to the youth of the next generation, this is the only way that the local rugby clubs will survive.
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I referee regularly at youth level and as far as I am concerned anything above the line of the shoulders is taboo. This is not taboo and IS allowed under the The UNDER 19 VARIATIONS - FACT. If you are deviating from these LAWS stipulated bt the RFU then you are perpetuating the myth that hand offs to the face are not allowed - WRONG! This is why this thread was started, because of this misconception. Not allowing Youth teams (U13s - U19s) to hand off to the face IS wrapping them in cotton wool. I know, lets keep them playing tag rugby until they're 18 years old in case they go crying to their Mummy with a bloody nose! In New Zealand, the Under 8's Smallblacks are permitted to handoff (and yes, to the face) So, English 13 year old boys are more than ready to handoff and receive a handoff, if they are not, maybe badminton would be a more suitable sport. I actually feel that the continuum and the UNDER 19 VARIATIONS give a very good and clear progression/pathway for children to follow. The problem arises where coaches/referees take upon them selves to deceide not to follow the Laws for junior rugby and impose what they feel is 'correct'.
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