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| 1.The hooker throws to 2, then moves to the reciever position to take a tap off the top-thus adding an extra person to the line 2 As above but the scrum half recives the tap down and moves round the front of the line,supported by the hooker
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1.The hooker throws to 2, then moves to the reciever position to take a tap off the top-thus adding an extra person to the line 2 As above but the scrum half recives the tap down and moves round the front of the line,supported by the hooker 1) God knows what the legalities are now or whether individual refs will blow the same on this scenario but that all aside... depends on what #2 is then to do having taken OTT ball. If looking to spread it wide ie act as s/half could be feasible but IMO it depends on what the oppo tail gunner standing onthe 15m line has done. Such tail gunners may be looking for intercepts/close down ball to #10 channel so the #2 may have limited options. It also depends on how the oppo have defended the lineout... if sparsely there could be gaps to exploit and run at. #9 could be riuunning wide to either take that pass from #2 or run a dummy line to attract tail gunner attention which may open up a snipe option for #2 at the tail... but again maybe depends on how overloaded the oppo have made the defense at the l/o. has benefits but will depend really on opposition defensive options. 2) basic front peel - unchanged IMO from previous situation ie pre ELV. Why use #9 though... still use a l/o particpant on the peel? didds
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| We had a discussion only last night at training about whether this is legal (ignoring whether it's a good idea). It seems to me that the ELVs allow you to have no receiver at 9, so this isn't altered. The only problem is if you have your receiver joining the line. In theory he has to stand two metres away, but this is a grey area, because you can just say he was joining the line slowly. Lots of sides try to ensure their jumpers arrive late at the lineout these days. On a separate point, since the need to match numbers has gone away I can't see the point of the ELVs relating to the positions of the receivers (hooker and scrum-half). There should either be the ELV relating to the positions of the receivers, or the ELV relating to numbers, but not both.
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iolo, i've seen some stuff recently about how the reciver MUST stay >2m from the l/o, and the l/o players must stay <2m from the l/o, penalised by a FK.
So I guess the answer is that howsoever the ref decides who is your receiver e.g. #9 then once he's decided that said receiver can;t then join the line under suffering of a FK.
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