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Posted 03/09/2008 17:58:16
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/welsh/7596321.stm

peoples views and opinions of this appreciated - how does this effect the way in which we coach the ruck area??
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Posted 04/09/2008 01:30:29


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Talking about the ruck and how you coach it, have you seen this?

http://www.irb.com/newsmedia/mediazone/pressrelease/newsid=2024288.html

Last weekend we had a prematch overview given by the referee, where he clearly laid out what he expected from our players and how/why/when he would blow for an infringement.

So tackler to move away from th etackle area immediately, no sealing/bridging and if in contact/engaged even with one of your own players over the ball/ruck no hands in - even to 'if trying to feed the ball' towards the back of the ruck.

It was clear, concise and he did referee to his clear instructions throughout the game.....

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Posted 04/09/2008 14:56:59
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yeah i was gonna mention this as a side note - in effect sealing or bridging of the ball is no longer applicable as it is being clamped down on really hard - as a coach of a physically small side i have personally spent a lot of time focusing on and developing this technique as one of the major factors of ball retention during contact, it seems my side will need to develop a fresh approach
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Posted 06/09/2008 12:59:39
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Watching the Dragons vs Glasgow game last night none of these changes in the interpretation of the ruck laws seemed to be in effect.

My personal view is rules have been deliberately interpreted in a way favouring the attacking side, and that these changes, if brought in, would make it much harder for the attacking side. So I don't think they will be here to stay, if they arrive at all.

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Posted 10/09/2008 13:34:46
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Here's an article from Dan's blog of September 8th, 2008

Teams losing their feet over old law

Sealing and bridging is confirmed as illegal. This month referees were told to be more vigilant in the tackle contest area and lots of teams struggled.

This is mainly because of poor technique in the contact area. Players go off their feet because they are not balanced as they arrive and they tend to drive down and not up.

Here is that ruling again, plus a clip of a ruck drill.

From the IRB website:

Law 15 - Tackle

It has become evident that players are going to ground over or on ball carriers which has become known as sealing off. On some occasions they remain in that position and fail to move away contravening Law. Furthermore players are going to ground or on top of players after a tackle thereby ensuring that the opposition cannot contest possession. Such actions are in breech of Laws 15.6 (g), 15.7 (c) and 15.7 (d).

Referees are requested to be more vigilant in this area of the Game and to ensure that both teams are treated equally at the breakdown.

Law 16 - Ruck

It has become common practice for players to move the ball from rucks using their hands and to pick the ball up in a ruck to form a maul. It is also evident that players of the ball carrying team are being allowed to handle the ball in the ruck when defenders are being told to leave the ball alone.

Law 16.4 (d) is to be refereed at all times and applied to both the attacking and defending teams.

Click here to visit Dan's blog and see a little drill from the Ford Rugby Academy to help your players stay on their feet.

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Posted 12/09/2008 13:05:12
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I posted on this subject over a month ago but no one commented!  Do not get confused - this is nothing to do with the ELVs, merely an enforcement of existing law.  Refs have allowed sealing off/bridging and hands in the ruck for years and it has been coached into the game - now it will have to be coached out!  We have concentrated quite hard in this area over the last month and it has resulted in our rucking improving.  Guys are now clearing out hard, going low to high.  If they clear out all the defenders and the tackled player and the ball are left isolated on the ground, the next support player (hopefully the 9!) is in quick and the ball is away - previously the support player came in and sealed off the ball.  If the 9 is tied in or not the first support player there, we are picking and going at pace with support.  Our management of the ball in contact, offloading and ball retention has improved significantly.
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Posted 15/09/2008 13:51:06
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Ianthesmudger: Clearly you're well ahead of the game both at the forum and with your coaching! Interesting and well-noted that you've had good success with coaching ways to accommodate the enforcement of the rules. Long may it continue.

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Posted 16/09/2008 12:05:46
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hello hello

great site

if bridging is illegal now because it is a form of sealing off, then wont the ruck be almost 'dead' as we know it?
i read the earlier posts and irb links about 'clearing out' and how that is to be stopped too. what is left of the ruck!
in days past in the carling era, the back row took the ball in contact but did not always go to ground. instead they turned and a maul formed and the s/h took the ball from the chest of the carrier and started a new phase.
is this the way forward?

i liked playing this style of rugby because it was faster and avoided being dumped on by fat props but i also remember england being heavily critisied for it at the time.

(the back row player was tim rodber.)

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