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Posted 10/07/2007 08:42:21
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Thanks Stue.

I now coach it as such.

Jonesy

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Posted 10/07/2007 10:40:21
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Re Unders and Overs - Rick Campbell puts it better than I can (NB he is talking about overs and unders in an RL context):

" To put "overs" & "under" in simple terms is "over" are a straight run
followed by a run away from the ruck & "unders" being a straight run
followed by a run toward the ruck. Purpose - to make defenders come to your
runners (not the other way around) & this will allow your offence to place
people in gaps.

But, there are usually a few factors which will make these "lines" more
successful in terms of your offensive game.
- Width from the ruck, if taken as a one/two pass carry (this will help
isolate & move defenders)
- Mirrorring, if two or more runners are involved the "copying" of lines
will again manipulate defenders' movements.
- Targetting an outcome, usually the hole in behind the ruck (less
defenders, quicker p-t-b if tackled) or around the outside of the defence.
- Combination, by combining lines ("overs" to an "unders" etc) defenders
have to make spontanious decisions, therefore you are again working into
one-on-one confrontations against an unsettled defender.

training tips - when practicing "lines", teach your runners to straighten up
after performing the line. This will help them in games push upfield after
initial contact - ready for p-t-b or setting up a support.
- Always make sure your runners are squared up initially, then their next
movement is straight ahead (to engage defenders), THEN run your required
line.
- Teach your players that lines are both proactive (preset roles) & reactive
(response to defenders movements) & practice both with the use of lines to
lessen the number of tacklers confronting your runners."

I have also tried to upload a few drill illustrations to help explain.


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Posted 12/07/2007 18:22:01
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As I understand it, a "screen pass" would be a miss pass -behind- a dummy runner.

In basketball a screen is when a player obstructs a defender's path, allowing a teammate to get open (of course, we'd never obstruct...). So, in essence, you're passing behind a dummy runner who is "screening" the defender. That's my understanding (not necessarily right!).

Also, on overs and unders, I typically teach my players when running over/under lines to draw the defender into moving one way, and changing direction sharply before they can react.

For example, on an under line, my players would run slightly outward, baiting the defender to cheat out (if they're in a drift this often works better as it entices the defender to over commit on the drift -- i.e., Luke McAlister on Sterling Mortlock's try in the recent Bledisloe match). Then they make a sharp, quick change of running angle inward/under to take the pass in the gap, on the inside shoulder of their defender.

You'd do just the opposite for an overs line.

Hope this helps.



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Posted 13/07/2007 10:13:43
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Nipper, You are so right re getting the defenders to head the wrong way a bit. In fact it can be as little as getting the defender's hips turned the wrong way that gives the attacker half a yard, more if the defender does not know how to correctly recover from his error (and few will outside of gridiron). Most will get their legs in a tangle trying to turn back the other way. This is a weakness in the drift defence (less so up and out - the drift where 7 takes 10 and everyone shuffles along one) as defenders are often scrambling to get to the next man along and are turned towards the sideline. This makes it vulnerable to players cutting "under". The answer is to learn to run sideways very fast without crossing up the legs (and I do not mean that odd star jumping thing one sees in warm ups). This is a technique taught to gridiron players who, at the top level can move this way at close to sprint speeds.

Recognising the defence you are facing is key. Once done plyers will know what moves to execute and where they need to get defenders' hips turned to. Turning the defender is just as important for potential receivers as it is for the ball carrier. The same issue faces wide receivers as they run their routes. Follow these links for some good tips on the subject. They are as relevant to RU/RL as to gridiron.

How to Run Effective Wide Receiver Routes

How to Make a Move on a Defensive Back: Wide Receiver Training Video

References to backpeddling are, as you may know, because the defensive back, having started say 5 yards back from the line of scrimmage runs backwards keeping a gap or "cushion" between him and the advancing wide receiver until such time as he recognises, from the wide receiver's moves, the route being run and therefore the interception point to move to. Top defensive backs can run backwards almost as fast as the receivers come forwards, and top wide reveivers have staggering 40 yrd times! The usefulness of backpeddling in rugby is probably worth a thread of its own.

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