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| Could somebody please describe exactly what is meant by a screen pass as per the managing contact module UKCC Level 2. There was much debate between a number of experienced coaches/tutors on a recent course as to what a Screen Pass meant. I was under the impression that it was a pass made when making contact (on feet) with a defender and making the pass to an oncoming support player by keeping the ball away from the defender's grasp by slightly turning your body away from him thus shielding (screening) the ball. Waht do you think?
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jonesy... you've hit upon a problem witn most areas of any expertise - sports, IT, law etc... what do the buzz words actually mean?
For me, your answer is good enough. i'd call that a circle ball... but a rose by any other name would smell as sweet. Etc.
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I have only heard the term before in American Football where it is a sort of trick play. The idea is to trick the defense into thinking that a long pass is going to be thrown and then throw a short one. They are usually used against aggressive teams who like to rush the QB as the play invites such a rush and then exploits the relatively depopulated areas they have come from.
Not sure how or if this translates into RU.
Another guess is the miss pass behind the dummy runner as seem a lot in League (rather charmingly called by some a "piss-off pass"). The pass "scrapes the back" of the dummy runner's jersey on it's way to it's intended recipient.
Maybe a glossary should be included with these things! (It took me ages to work out what "overs" and "unders" were!)
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| It takes me years to catch up with the buzz phrases that are used globally, mainly because I use my own "Descriptive" Buzz words, eg: I'd call your description - Bump & Slip. (Bump the defender & Slip the pass to a runner) Personally I thought that a Screen Pass was very much the same as a switch or scissors pass (Yes that's an old buzz word - from a time before buzz words were called buzz words I think)  Maybe performed at the point of contact as opposed to before it with a switch - don't the Aussies call that a fold pass. I'm sure I recall reading or hearing an Aussie coach (not sure which) talking about a Cut & Fold move. Basically a Miss pass followed by a switch pass. Sorry I digress. What did the guys on the course settle on ?
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Should have added that in the American Football version, the offensive linemen, having "released" the pass rushers, drift out to a designated area to form a screen or wall of blockers (that's where the name comes from of course). the ball is then thrown to a running back or receiver behind this screen. the screen deals with any linebackers not drawn into the pass rush. The secondary are moved aside by wide receivers running "clear out routes" - ie dragging them to parts of the field where they will not be able to interfere.
I guess any pass made behind a screen of attacking players might fit the bill - still guessing though. On another subject, does anyone here use unders and overs or has than not really made the transition from League?
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| Screen pass, (IMHO). Any type of pop/short pass where the ball carrier uses their body to screen the ball/pass from an opponent. This can be in contact with the opposition, such as forwards running off a lineout on a peel, or just prior to contact, such as the centers performing a switch/scissors move. The idea being to commit the defender & decieve them as to your pass option. Hope this helps
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I remember from playing basketball the use of screen players to prevent the opponents either reaching the ball player or seeing the pass, could it be this sort of pass Fly Half to outside center behind the inside center that was debated?
A screen pass as i understand it is any pass that is shielded from the opposition by the use of a players body be that his own or someone elses
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| Please be so kind as to give full description of what you believe are overs and unders. Stue
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| Jonesy has a perfect answer to the screen pass.
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