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RE: U13 Rugby Law Variations

d4zzler — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:24:10 GMT

If you look on the RFU web site (13-19 variations) it does not state that No.8 cannot pick up on an uncontested scrum.

http://www.community-rugby.com/communityrugby/index.cfm/Fuseaction/Home.Story/StoryTypeId/101/SectionId/1308/StoryId/11717.cfm

RE: U13 Rugby Law Variations

Ferret — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:36:02 GMT

Certainly under the RFU laws number 8 pick up is allowed at U13 because we scored several tries that way last year (including one in a cup game with a very senior ref!!)

From memory, before that we only had a 7 man scrum anyway and there was no number 8, although that may have been U11.

As far as the 'uncontested scrum' part is concerned, I don't have the laws in front of me but from memory it just says no shoving and the side putting in must win it. You can win a scrum from a no 8 pick up just as well as with no 9 so I don't see that pick up is prohibited simply because the scrum is uncontested.

But as always I am happy to be contradicted!:)

Cheers Ferret

RE: U13 Rugby Law Variations

dobbin — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:08:40 GMT

Making the usual assumption that we are RFU-controlled here......

I too coach and referee U13. In the continuum, number 8 pick-up is specifically not allowed at U12 and below, but there is nothing restricting it above that. I wonder if the interpretation of 'Junior' may be the problem here as I believe it is not a defined term. As far as I am aware, the official designations are Mini Tag (U7-U8), Mini (U9-U10), Midi (U11-U12) and Youth/School (U13-U19).

U13 Rugby Law Variations

engelsman — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:51:26 GMT

Can anyone help here.

Uncontested scrum, when I did my ELRA I was told no No.8 pickup at Junior Level.

Yesterday I witnessed pickups by an U13 No 8 from an uncontested scrum.

As I thought I knew what I was talking about ( MY ELRA course finished a few weeks ago) I reminded the referee after the game about no picking up from an uncontested scrum at junior level.

I was told I was speaking rubbish, so what I have now is one Society ref saying 'NO' and a ref from a different society saying 'YES'. I cannot find anything printed in any of the supplementary law variation print outs.

Can anyone enlighten me, please.

Engelsman