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| I coach an Under 19's team whose pack tend to ball watch when rucking. I have spent many an hour concentrating on body angles, rotating the "jackler" and clearing beyond the ball which results in an effective rucking technique during training sessions. Job done? No - saturday comes and we end up with upright bodies and "leaning on" - a total lack of physical presence ending up with numerous instances of turn over ball. I find this very frustrating however I don't think its a case of can't do but more of a case of can't be bothered to! Do you think this is a fitness and conditioning issue or a mindset issue? How would you approach this issue? Jonesy. Rugby is a simple game complicated by LAWS!
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| jonesy - I suspect it is very kjuch the same answer as to why teams * tackle perfectly in practise - but manifestly to acheive it at game time * debate and decide upon a game plan before the game and at half time... then fail to play to it once the game starts. I put it down to mindset - but I havent; any answers :-( didds
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| Do you play 15-a-side games, normal rules, in practice? I too see simialr issues - players performing the technique well in the more controlled environment of the training ground but it all goes out the window in the more chaotic environment of the game where much more is happening. Could training games, say 15 mins aside, be a stepping stone between the two?
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| I try to use whole part whole process, therefore a mixture of game drill game. I have come to the conclusion that it is probably a mixture of mindset and fitness and conditioning with some of the forwards. My next training session is going to address both issues, hopefully. Jonesy
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| Hi Jonsey, This problem is really common and unless it is addressed, it goes right up to senior level - looking at it as early as U9's is fantastic for these kids and in the long term will really benefit them, so keep at it and stick with it. Out of interest I worked hard on this with my adult senior team last year as they had the same problem! We introduced a key word/phrase "R.E.M." which stands for 'Rapid Eye Movement'. This means that those not involved in the ruck have to scan the scene fast to see what is happening in front of them and where the ball was in relation to being delivered from the ruck. We mainly got the full back to shout it from rucks as he had a better field of vision and could see backs not scanning the scene but looking 'fixated' at the ruck. However, any player can shout it. Initially - and a good idea with juniors - would be to gt them to point straight ahead of them once the REM call is made. This gets them to a) show they have heard and reacted to the call and b) they can see what is directly in front of them - as space or a defender. I would back this practice up time and again in modified game type practices (the kids will love it if it looks and feels like a game - but the rules have to be structured to get what you want - try the team with the ball must win the ruck, no more than 4 players total to a ruck (2 from each side) and overload the attack side (i.e. 10 v 7) so you know that there is an advantage out there somewhere. If possible try to video the game(s) from behind with a reasonably wide angle lens to show width - play the game for 2 minutes and then play the video (or part of it) back to the kids so they can see what you actually mean and want and you can get them to comment on what they see and how they improve etc. Again, kids love this use of technology and it really helps them understand what you mean - after all, kids much prefer to watch tv than read a book or listen to a teacher - it is the power of the visual media and seeing to understand. I think most of us are visual learners. Anyway, I hope this has helped and I would be interested to know how you get on. Just remember they are really young so build up slowly and set really small targets - try not to focus on the final place. Generally at this age 3-4 passes from a ruck = space and tries. Cheers, Mark
Mark Calverley
Wanganui Collegiate School,
132 Liverpool Street,
Wanganui,
New Zealand.
00 64 (0)6 3457299
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| Hey again Jonsey - sorry thought is was an U9's side - just read again and it's U19's DOH!!! Pretty much the same advice applies though - it is all relevant and I did the same with my adult team and my U14 team last season. Cheers, Mark
Mark Calverley
Wanganui Collegiate School,
132 Liverpool Street,
Wanganui,
New Zealand.
00 64 (0)6 3457299
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