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Posted 31/08/2007 12:44:29
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Quick question -- in the drift defense, what is the cue for the defender to start the drift? Is it simply his man passing, or is it two passes away from him? Any cues I can give my players would be helpful. thanks!

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Posted 03/09/2007 20:15:35
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Are you talking about up and out or a system where each defender moves across to take the next man along? If the former, once the ball has passed a defender's opposite man, his job is mainly to track the play from the inside guarding against the cut back,inside ball etc. He will also look to support a tackle on the next man along. As soon as the ball is in flight and its direction clear, start to move.

In a system where players are looking to shift across one, a very rapid assessment needs to be made of various distances. The distances between the attackers, how deep the attackers are lying etc all need to be factored in. In essence, if D1 is to move off A1 when A1 passes and get into the position occupied by D2 to take A2 in time, the distance between D1 and D2 needs to be less than the distance that A2 is off the line or the anticipated contact point. Now there will be a little time/distance taken for the pass to be made and for A2 to gather the pass in. But at the end of the day D1 has to get there first or there will be no one home and it's try time. Also D1 cannot arrive with so much speed that he is easily stepped. It's complicated when you stop and think about it. In many circs calling such a move will be a gamble frankly. If the gain from such a play is an extra defender out wide, is that outweighed by the difficulties caused to the midfield defence?
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Posted 04/09/2007 13:31:01
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It's the former -- up and out.

So, just to clarify, if A1 passes, D1 should start to shift into the channel between A1 and A2?

Does D2 then wait until his man (A2) passes before he shifts as well?

Thanks for the feedback!

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Posted 04/09/2007 13:51:48
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Nipper (04/09/2007)
It's the former -- up and out.

So, just to clarify, if A1 passes, D1 should start to shift into the channel between A1 and A2?

yup.  D1 should move towards the inside shoulder of A2.



Does D2 then wait until his man (A2) passes before he shifts as well?

No - D1 when he starts to move should call the drift and ALL defenders should then target the inside shoulder of the next attacker over from their original opponent.  ie the entire defensive line should drift one player.

also note - D1 should be confident that his original place is being covered (back row forward?) to cover the cut back or inside ball.  All defenders should align initially with their outside shoulders attacking the opponet's inside shoulder  ie looking to push the opponet outside and awayy from the breakdown (and support).

Defenders should be wary of turning too far towards the touchline as tis creates a very weak inside shoulder should the opponent step back inside.

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Posted 04/09/2007 17:19:23
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Great stuff guys -- thanks!

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Posted 06/09/2007 12:41:14
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I may be wrong here but I had understood the up and out to differ from the drift in that a player does not come off his man until the ball has gone. Leaving definitions aside, one could do either. Part of the attraction of the up and out in RU, as I understand it, is that you pack your defenders closer together hoping to create an extra man at the tackle/breakdown and so have a better chance of a turnover. Imagine A2 takes on the line and is tackled by D2, with a bit of luck D1 will also be on hand to help in the tackle or challenge for the ball on the ground. In a drift in this scenario, D1 takes A2, while D2 covers A3. Aside from the issue of covering the inside as Didds mentions, it occurs to me that D1 could be outnumbered at the tackle if A1 has come across to support A2 and so have less chance of effecting a turnover or slowing the recycling of the ball. A1 is likely to get there before a defensive back row forward.
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Posted 01/11/2007 17:17:12
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Up and out drifting.  The cue would be running angle of the first receiver, if he is not targeting the first "ball" defender's (not the guard or, if used, the body guard) inside shoulder, he should call for the drift and start targeting next attacker's inside shoulder.  Every external defender from the "drifter" should shift focus to the next attacker approaching from inside. 

Would you have the "drifters" to keep moving in a forward position from the external defender or would you rather --after a certain number of passes by the attacker-- have them "cornerflagging" or running "behind" the external attacker?

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Posted 21/11/2007 10:14:26
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In a straight up and out system as RL runs it, which is a man marking system, the cue is the ball - once it goes past, THEN the player shifts from inside to out. Not all of the defenders, just the one the ball has gone past.
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