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Posted 29/09/2008 12:21:42
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I have a big leggy loose head prop who has problems with smaller tight head's ( which is most of them) driving up under him. We have worked endlessly on getting his position lower and not over extending in the engage which all works fine in training, but as soon as we are in a game and he get's a little tired we go back to square one and the problems start. Any idea's or should I just move him back from the front row and look at other options.
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Posted 29/09/2008 15:52:28
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If its tiredness is it fatigue in the thigh muscles preventing him crouching low enough? ...what about finding some exercises to strengthen him in that area?

Probably as simple as holding the position repeatedly for 20 second bursts, but I'm no expert - it could give him the "muscle memory" or whatever its called, in other words the muscles "know" the position so adopt it readily... sorry about my terminology but you get the drift. I'm sure any decent personal trainer could help with that.

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Posted 29/09/2008 22:51:21
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One of the things I have used with all my forwards but particularly the front rows is to really work their core stability, so they can take a strong low position.

We have used a number of things to do this - getting into a nice low crouch againts a park fence - holding then rising and lowering for a number of reps; one on one scrummaging/rucking - starting on knees up to a full engage position then back down; using a swiss ball to get into a low crouch and hold; getting into the brace (press up position) balancing with hands on a rugby ball etc...

These are really challenging (try for yourself) and need lots of control - and careful coaching - but they are really effective.

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Core stability & stength is MASSIVELY important- thereafter, the speed on engagement, width of the feet apart & the 'shape' (head up, back flat, shoulders higher than hips) will determine how it goes. Sounds like your prop just needs time with a conditioning coach...

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Posted 24/10/2008 00:45:46


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Marc,

Have you tried getting the hooker to set the height of the front row, which will 'force' your props to get low everytime?

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Also within Hampshire we run a Front Row Mentoring scheme where we concentrate on the development of front row players, were we players are shown how to understand their body positions and how the various parts of the body effect their body positioning.

There are various exercises you can do to build core stability as well as strength, with the use of items such as a swiss ball and even a rugby ball.

If you are interested in further information, send me a message and I can forward on some ideas to you.

Dazzler

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Posted 24/10/2008 02:21:44


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Also within Hampshire we run a Front Row Mentoring scheme where we concentrate on the development of front row players, were we show players to understand their body positions and how the various parts of the body effect their body positioning.

There are various exercises you can do to build core stability as well as strength, with the use of items such as a swiss ball and even a rugby ball.

If you are interested in further information, send me a message and I can forward on some ideas to you.

Dazzler

http://havantrfccoachescorner.wordpress.com/

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Posted 06/11/2008 21:11:32
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How about trying him at tight head?
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